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Offline PlymouthRCRacing

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Scratch Built Rock Crawler
« on: February 03, 2009, 08:28:15 PM »
Hi All,

I am some advice and pointers ona project I am doing.

The short version is I have to build a rock crawler from scratch by Friday 27th February. Most of the bits I will be making myself.

The vehicle must sit in a box 300mm long by 200mm max.

As this is the first crawler I am building can anyone give me advice on things I need to bear in mind, motors will either be 540 standard or 480 standard, batteries will be NiMh and all I have is 2 channels to work with.

To give an idea some of things I need advice on is angles of twist ( or whatever the correct terms are), overall drive ratio as I am making most of the gear boxes, etc.

I look forward to any comments, and i will post in the workshop from start to finish on this project.

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Re: Scratch Built Rock Crawler
« Reply #1 on: February 04, 2009, 06:01:34 PM »
firstly http://www.rccrawler.com/forum/

max articulation should be around 60* maybe

motor - 55turn lathe motor or similar
axles - solid
tyres - big and slim
batteries - place on axles if possible
gear ratio - generally lowest it can go really  O0

really the whole crawler will depend on your axles
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Re: Scratch Built Rock Crawler
« Reply #2 on: February 04, 2009, 07:46:34 PM »
Hi jimbob,

thank you for the information, the axles I am making myself and it makes things easier being fixed as I worried about fitting in the diff.

Gear ratio will be easy to get low as I am making the gear box too.

Any other help or advice will be much appricated

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Re: Scratch Built Rock Crawler
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2009, 11:38:54 PM »
Yup, you're probably best off going to RC Crawler for advice, but I'll give what I can.

For the gear ratio, you don't *necessarily* want the absolute lowest you can go. Do a bit of research, but it's sometimes useful to have a bit of wheelspeed if you need it to get over a stubborn obstacle. You're looking at probably 40 or 50:1, but like I say...double-check with the pros. It depends on your motor, of course. Tyres need to be large, fairly narrow and above all, soft with plenty of sidewall to flex on. Perhaps even put BB's in the tyres, to improve purchase.
In terms of axles, there should be a variety out there. Your dimensions seem pretty small, but perhaps the Losi 1/18th crawler axles would be of use? The most popular class by far at the moment is 1/10th so your choices are limited, but either those or maybe TLT axles would be useable. The TLT ones are a bit outdated and larger, so I'd check out the Losi ones. You'll need to use some kind of sliding driveshaft., and the classic 4-link suspension (triangulated top links to stop the axles moving out of place). You could perhaps bend the lower links to increase ground clearance.

60 to 70 degrees of articulation is about what you want; any more, and you'll probably run into binding issues and it'll just tangle itself on the rocks. Do you need to use cells that you already have, or can you buy new ones? It's just that some 2/3A cells would be perfect to mount on the axles (the type that are used in 1/18th vehicles). They don't need to be high capacity for crawling, and less weight is always good...but any that you do have, you should try to concentrate on the axles. A 540 motor sounds a little large, so perhaps there are small options out there? You'd have to research into that.

Other than that...just try to keep everything as low as possible, while keeping high ground clearance. Keep the chassis strong at its link/shock mount points, with plenty of cross-bracing for rigidity. And soft springs, with the suspension set so that the shocks are only about half- to three-quarters-extended at rest.

That's all I can think of from the top of my head, but the RC Crawler guys REALLY know what they're talking about. You'll get all the help you need there. O0
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Re: Scratch Built Rock Crawler
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2009, 09:06:55 AM »
Hi DT,

With the information from you and Jimbob, I think I have everything to get mark one done and running.

Now off to the drawing board and see what I can come up with.

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Re: Scratch Built Rock Crawler
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2009, 06:04:25 PM »
How's your project going??